The retired NFL great said his lil bro is still the same “free spirit,” but he’s definitely grown up since teaming up with Swift.

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Taylor Swift celebrates with Travis Kelce #87 of the Kansas City Chiefs after defeating the Buffalo Bills 32-29 in the AFC Championship Game at GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium on January 26, 2025 in Kansas City, Missouri.Jamie Squire/Getty Images

Before he began dating Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce was a typical bro, bro. At least according to former NFL quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, who sat down with Trav’s big brother, fellow retired NFL great Jason Kelce, on this week’s Fitz & Whit podcast to talk beer pong and the tremendous growth they’ve seen in Travis since he began dating Swift a year and a half ago.

“It’s been staggering, honestly,” Jason said of the changes he’s seen in Travis over the period. “He legitimately had a basketball hoop in his living room,” Fitzpatrick recalled of the Super Bowl-winning Kansas City Chiefs tight end’s interior design vibe before he teamed up with the world’s biggest pop star. “And a pool table, I don’t think he had any couches,” Fitz added.

“One of the things I love so much about Travis is that he never grew up,” Jason said. “He was like Peter Pan [and] the Lost Boys.” Asked if Trav has grown up now, Jason added, “For sure. It’s changing. I think sometimes you get people in your life that maybe get that out of you and that’s a good thing,” seemingly referencing Swift, without directly naming her.

“Trav, he is growing up,” Jason said. “He’s still got, though, that youthful enthusiasm. I think he’ll always have that. It’s just part of his personality… Anyone that’s ever met Trav, you can’t help but just love the guy. He’s a free spirit in the best possible way.”

Swift and Kelce, 35, both have some down-time ahead of them following Taylor wrapping her record-setting Eras Tour in December and Travis ending his 12th season with a 40-22 Super Bowl LIX loss to the Philadelphia Eagles earlier this month.

Watch Jason talk Travis’ growth below.